How do you test Edge accessibility with Remote-IE

By design Issue #7567541

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Peter B.
Created
May 15, 2016
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Dear Administrators of the Microsoft EdgeDEV-Platform,

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My Name is Peter, I’m 17 year old and blind. I have a big homepage, which I develope myself. I want to make sure that this homepage is best compiled for EDGE, Because I’m a big microsoft fan. I use lot’s of HTML5 features on the site and I type the sourcecode all by myself. So, to check whether the site works, I’d like to use Remote-IE, because I have no computer with windows 10, only one with windows 8 where my mother told me that I mustn’t upgrade and now, the upgrade-period ended anyway. So, because i’m 17, I can’t buy a new computer and my mum sayed that i’m not alowed to run VMs on this Windows 8-one, because „They need so much harddisk-space.“ And I’m not allowed to install anything, like, for example, a hypervisor. So, there’s no alternative, I need to use Remote-IE. I could install the Azure Remote App, that worked without admin privileges on the Windows 8 machine, Don’t know why.But as I tryed, (with sighted help, to start a Screenreader on your IE/Edge Remotecomputer, It didn’t work. I tryed the following things:

  1. Open a new tap in Edge and enter http://www.neverseen.de/newnvda.exe“, then click on run, then again on run, in order to start NVDA, An open source screenreader that reads aloud text on the screen, but your Remote-Computer told me that this program was blocked by the system administrator. I truely understand that you want to protect the remote-computers, which are only for testing websites, from abusing, but please, do not make such hard restrictions, because otherwhise it’s absolutely impossible for blind people to use the service. In my opinion, and I’m hobbyprogrammer myself, it’s enough if you allow running applications, but only without admin privileges. So, a blind person like me, couldrun it’s screenreader, which dosn’t require administrator rights, and nobody can install it’s own applications and abuse your computer. I’d really, really appreciate that. You can’t imagine how much you’d help me, and the whole blind comunity, if you could enable this.
    Kind regardsm
    Peter.

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    • Microsoft Edge Team

      Changed Title from “fatal problem with Remote-IE” to “How do you test Edge accessibility with Remote-IE”

    • We are looking into the general issue. Even if you were allowed to run NVDA on the remote machine, I don’t think you would get a good experience because of the weird technology we use to host the Edge remotely. I’m looping our infrastructure team to consider how to best address this issue in the future.

       

      That being said, the Free Windows 10 upgrade offer is still valid until end of July, and will be extended for people using Accessibilty Software on their PC. I would recommend you don’t worry about Edge now, and update to Windows 10 once we release the free Windows 10 Anniversary update (sometime this summer) because it contains a lot of accessibilty improvements I’m sure you will appreciate. That way you can have both Edge and IE on your PC, and compare the differences.

    • We are looking into the general issue. Even if you were allowed to run NVDA on the remote machine, I don’t think you would get a good experience because of the weird technology we use to host the Edge remotely.
      What do you mean, because oft he Azure Remote App? I fit were possible to run NVDA, I could probably use NVDA’s own remote functionality?
      I’m looping our infrastructure team to consider how to best address this issue in the future.
      That being said, the Free Windows 10 upgrade offer is still valid until end of July,
      Well, that’s strange, because my mother’s computer told me it were expired. Maybe she blocked it?
      and will be extended for people using Accessibilty Software on their PC.
      Cool!
      I would recommend you don’t worry about Edge now, and update to Windows 10 once we release the free Windows 10 Anniversary update (sometime this summer) because it contains a lot of accessibilty improvements I’m sure you will appreciate. That way you can have both Edge and IE on your PC, and compare the differences.
      I’d so much like to upgrade, but i’m sure my mother will never allow this.

    • Microsoft Edge Team

      Changed Assigned To to “Bogdan B.”

      Changed Status to “Confirmed”

      Changed Status from “Confirmed” to “By design”

    • I’m resolving this bug By Design. We understand the specific scenario here and greatly appreciate your interest in the product improvements. However currently this is an inherent limitation that is not feasible to address in the near future. I would echo the recommendations made earlier in this discussion, and would recommend to consider any of the available alternatives, including Windows Insider program. It does sound to me that use should be able to upgrade to Windows 10 would you desire to do so - and if you still see problems with unavailable upgrade - please let us know we’ll see how we can help! Again, thank you very much for your interest and support - we hope you’ll like some of the improvements we’ve made to Edge accessibility, as you might know we’ve been working on specific improvements: 
      https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2016/04/20/building-a-more-accessible-web-platform/

      All the best,
      The MS Edge Team

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